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K2 + box navigation (still not wokring)

Submitted by auralincarnation on Sat, 04/09/2022 - 13:24
auralincarnation
Pro User
Control Surface Studio User

OK I'm working with A+H K2 controller and I have been trying to get the session box to move when I use the N listen coders at the top of my controller...

I'm not usually so badly flummoxed about some thing and I've been trying to do this for a very long timeā€¦ I have my M1 Mac only hooked to the K2 controllerā€¦ I've gone through the whole rigmarole of updating the firmware for the k2 (which is a requirement if you want to use it with an M1 Mac just FYI)

Yes I have other controllers that I want to use along with it but I've narrowed it down to just my computer and just the controllerā€¦ And I have not gotten into work since control service studio was re-modifies actual full product...

So far I have tried:
- using the encoders directly as in not overriding them and using your built in session box navigation functions standard no luck
- I've tried overriding the controls and attempting to use the endless encoders as an incremental type controller no luck
- overriding the controlled absolute mode no luck
- overriding the controller to relative mode also no luck
I'm 100% sure I am getting signal in live from my controller because I can see the midi receiver blinking as I turn the endless encoder..

I'm now in the middle of trying a reaction and I'm getting no response whatsoever even though I'm still seeing the midi input blinker confirming I'm getting midi input into liveā€¦ When life what's up I also know that it's my it's the proper script that's loading up here's my reaction listing in its parts....

Listener - Endless encoder 4 is turned
conditions block 1 (left turn) - encoders latest vel;ocity is less then -- Ive tried values 1,10,25,64...
custom code for condition is -- self.midi_cc_ch_14_val_34.cur_val < 40
action code is -- self.get_sessbox_scene_offset() -1

action block 2 ( right turn) -
Condition in this encoder fours value is greater than a whole set of numbers starting with 64 try 127 and a bunch of other numbers that were greater than 64 and less than 127
code for condition -- self.midi_cc_ch_14_val_34.cur_val > 70

action custom code == self.get_sessbox_scene_offset() +1

I need to get back to prepping for my next gig which is all too soon and I really could use a controller working again like I did back during live 10 and I was still using your web page intrface....

Please help I have no idea what I'm doing wrong anymore and I love this controller I'm trying to keep it in my rig because I don't wanna try to find a replacement at this late state...

Hope someone can shed light on this and help me get it working again thank you for your time

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Wim
Control Surface Studio User
#1

Hello auralincarnation,
If I am not mistaken, the endless encoder of the K2 is Relative.
In order to make that work, you need to set the encoder accordingly in the Template Controller, see screenshot. And then map the 'Session Box Navigation' to the encoder, see the second screenshot.
This should work.
In order to make it work in a Reaction, Choose a Velocity of 1 or 127 to go one way or the other.
I hope this can help you out!
Good luck with the gig!!

auralincarnation
Pro User
#2

I did try the velocity of 1 and 127 but that didn't work either...
is my function call to get the session box to move correct in my reaction?

auralincarnation
Pro User
#3

here is my sctreen shot that didnt work

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Wim
Control Surface Studio User
#4

Hello auralincarnation,
I'm not on the computer for the moment, but the screenshot you sent looks just fine.

If you input the values shown in my 2 screenshots, it should work!
Take notice of the 'steps' in the Control Settings, it should be set at 1, so each increment or decrement is only a 1-value change.
Good luck!

auralincarnation
Pro User
#5

I've tried both of your suggestions and none of them work is there someplace I can check to see what's going on with the actual script to find out what might be going wrong here because none of your suggestions have done anything to helpā€¦ I've tried the endless encoder set a relative 127 one just like your thing says and I've tried using reaction setting the values to just like you said but there's still no responseā€¦ I do see the mini receive in live blinking but it does not move the session box at all

Wim
Control Surface Studio User
#6

Hi auralincarnation,
Let's do baby steps first.
Set the Control Settings of the template exactly as in my screenshot.
Then set the Session Box Navigation exactly as in the second screenshot. Do not start with Reactions yet.
Just try that out first, that really should work.
Till soon!

auralincarnation
Pro User
#7

Hello again so I've included the screenshot of my my CSS studio I am using the new try sew in live I bring up CSS new try in the midi settings and I've tried it it doesn't work am I missing something is there some log I can check or something like that?

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auralincarnation
Pro User
#8

please let me know what can check on my system on what is going wrong!

auralincarnation
Pro User
#9

But I agree with you on let's take baby steps tell you what give me your opinion on exactly how I should set up PE K2 so that I can move the session box up and down the scenes just by pushing a button on the K2

Help me set up a way to use the button press on each of the endless and coders to move the session box down up right and left I would be happy with that please your help is appreciated

theii
Control Surface Studio User
#10

Hi auralincarnation,

Same issue here with a K2. Trying to assign ring box nav to an endless encoder at the top, but not working. Works fine with a regular knob. Did you find a solution? Thank you.

theii
Control Surface Studio User
#11

Hi Auralincarnation,

I double checked Wim's settings and corrected a typo on my end and it worked perfectly! Thank you Wim!

MDMAx
Control Surface Studio User
#12

Hey,
I am not sure if this helps you but I had some similar issues.
I was wondering because I got a midi signal Ableton but nothing happened.

Then I used "midi learn" and saw that the K2 template you can download is mapped for midi channel 15. So I changed the midi channel of my K2

(1) pushing "power on setup"
2) plug in power cable"
3) push "power on setup" again
4) select the channel --> each lighted button = 1 "channel") by using the "power on setup" knob
5) 15 lighted buttons = channel 15

After I set this it worked ...